Saturday, March 22, 2008

Nate and Tobias or Nate vs. Tobias - crackilatin' on fasheezy bookmeezy

Nate: emphasis on "the" ? (the eschaton)


Tobias: I say 'the' in defiance of the spiritual or preterist view marking modern eschatalogy. My conviction is still bent on that one cataclysmic event marking the consumation of time and history. In essence, i still believe in a future apocalypse and the literal return of Christ second comming (not rapture).


Nate: I;m with you baby. The Day of the Lord as it is developed in the prophets is something that I've been hitting since the beginning of the year but it has so many dimensions to it. Desolation and reward, etc.... very interesting stuff. This isn't the stuff that is easy to discuss with people.


Tobias: You're right, its not easy to discuss. But as a friend and great prophet once said, "we have to learn to embrace the ambiguities." - Nathan Smith...: )

miss you bro



Nate: Check this out - Kierkegaard wrote about paradoxes (ambiguity) and said, "The paradox is really the pathos of intellectual life and just as only great souls are exposed to passions it is only the great thinker who is exposed to what I call paradoxes, which are nothing else than grandiose thoughts in embryo."

This is an excerpt from the book, An Emergent Manifesto of Hope and the chapter is called, Orthoparadoxy in place of orthodoxy/orthopraxis. Excellent stuff!

The Trinity is the best example of orthoparadoxy!

My way of existing conveys my final answer. - Levinas or as Jacques Ellul put it, "The movement of faith is unceasing because no explanation it offers is ever finished." That's from the prophets as it relates to eschatological fulfillment.

"It would seem very strange that Christianity should have come into the world just to receive an explanation" - Kierkegaard



Tobias: ....

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